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Journal Entry: Thu Oct 18, 2007, 7:15 PM
  • Mood: Torment
  • Watching: Sex and the City
  • Playing: Jak 3
  • Eating: Pizza!
  • Drinking: Water


Ok, here are some questions and stuff that bothers me.
I want to make a journal out of it, so that all can read it, if they want to. Don't start bitching, this is my opinion, and if you read don't like it, then fuck off. I am of course open for other people's opinions, but it's not certain that I will care.

Why I don't do fanart of official characters

How easy is it not to earn popularity by drawing fanart? First of, I want to say that I don't scorn people who do, because if they want to draw fanart, and have fun doing it, well... that's their case! I on the other hand... For example, you can find hundreds of Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, whatever, pictures on DA. Some are really good and put a lot of work into, and I respect that, I fav some of those pics myself. But when a simple low doodle sketch or whatever gets on the front page, just because it's fanart, then it pisses me off. I see several fantastically talented artists around on DA every day, and they do not get half the attention, just because they actually use their freaking mind and come up with their own creations! People do not even bother to throw a glance at these pictures, just because it isn’t Sephirot, Riku or whoever the fuck. I would like to earn my reputation and potential popularity because people like what I draw, because people like my things. I think its sad that talented artists around DA don’t get attention whatsoever, just because they draw their own things. So fuck off!!!

People who fav my entire gallery in a matter of two minutes, but doesn’t leave a single comment

This is bullshit. How can I feel honoured in any way, just because anyone favs all my drawings, yet doesn’t tell me why? And it certainly feels really special when I see that these people have like three thousands pictures in their favourites. What are you thinking with? I am really careful with my favourites, I fav only pictures that I really really enjoy, that touches something within me, that I truly like. But when people just hit the favourite button like it was an enter- or space button, it means nothing! It’s like they’re just faving just to do it. Would it really hurt you so damned much to just take one, two, perhaps maximum three pictures and tell me why you like them? And don’t try to tell me that ‘Oh, but everything is so good, I have to fav it all! Lawwwl!’ That’s not fucking true. If everything is just as good, how come your favourites consist of nothing but the same thing over and over again. Not every picture is just as good. Perhaps you feel like you’re giving a compliment to the artist by faving every single one of his/hers picture, but it’s really just fucking annoying.

People leaving one word comments

How many times have I not gone over this? It’s because this is my biggest irritation. If I see a picture, and I really like it, I try to leave a somewhat proper comment. Doesn’t have to be a whole article, but just some sentences to give a little credit to the artist that has worked her ass off. A simple ‘cool’ or ‘kawaii’ doesn’t mean anything! It doesn’t describe what you like about the picture, it could’ve been about the News button at the top of the banner for all I know! And people saying ‘But I don’t know what more to say!’. Well, then don’t say anything at all! I will ignore you equally if you do, and you spare yourself the god damn trouble! Does it really take more than five brain cells to type two, three sentences?


So yeah... Fuck off. :heart:

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:iconmirakhall:
*MiraKHall Oct 19, 2007  Student General Artist
"when a simple low doodle sketch or whatever gets on the front page, just because it's fanart, then it pisses me off."

Yeah, I remember you telling me about that -- one time, a stick-figure of Sesshou-maru had a mass fave beyond astronomical numbers just because it's Fluffy! :ohmygod: However, the one time I saw a fanart of low quality faved to the point of Today's Favourites (Link fanart drawn in MS Paint), it was for a good reason, I noticed. Its was a visual joke based from one of the games; I don't rightly remember the details exactly, but one of the deviants were discussing about this on their journal. But despite the MS-messiness it had, the wit and humor was there, and even THAT can be more valuable than who's being drawn for publicity's sake.

And please, don't get me started on the endless numbers of KH fanart making it to the top :dohtwo: I'm afraid to do another one for myself without having people say, "OOOOHHH! It's **insert Organization Member's name here**!! Instant fave!!!" before reading my comments that I'm practically dissing them for being idiots in the first place :XD: I'm STILL getting faves and comments on my Demyx fanart two months after submitting it... The only reason I haven't taken it down into storage is because I'm quite proud of how I did Sora-tachi as lemming-esque Homestar-ish chibis, since Lemmings and Homestar are my favorite time-wasters (and some folks do recognize that aspect to my pride and joy). I just love doing fanart too much :blush:

Okay, I need to stop before I get carried away again ^^; I totally agree with you on these issues, and understand your frustration. I only hope some of those who fits those categories will try and better themselves as Deviants.
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:iconaryiana:
I think that if you are going to take the time to comment it should be something more than 'this is cool'! so ya i agree! As for fanart, the only fan art that i like is the stuff where i have no idea what it is from, then i can form my own opinion about the characters rather than knowing about them.
The other thing i dislike about fan art is that at times it changes your view of a person (if it is fanart from a book for example)
If people wanna do it and enjoy it then they can feel free but i sooo agree that they should make sure they spend time looking at some original art as well! there are some Gems out there that have not been viewed....
As for the fav's i generally try to fav one piece of work from each artist i love. Sometimes i choose two or three but i agree, whats the point in faving them all. It negates the whole point!

Ok i am going to stop before i.......well keep going!
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:iconunstrunghero:
~Unstrunghero Oct 19, 2007   Interface Designer
It is pretty annoying to see Deviants with 40k hits and maybe 4 or 5 half-assed deviations done in paint of KH when so may really phenomenal artists go unnoticed. I really don't like seeing DA treated like Myspace since it is my haven from it.

As for the faving and not commenting, I can be guilty of that sometimes. I don't just go willy nilly with my faving though, if something really makes me smile, I will absolutely save it to show others later (most likely on Live journal). I've never been much on board posting or comment posting, thats why my BBS accounts tend to fall by the wayside :/
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:icondazedpink:
~DazedPink Oct 19, 2007  Student Traditional Artist
Yup, quite annoying indeed.
People don't have to comment for each picture they fav, I think at least. But to fav the entire gallery, and then leave nothing...? Feels like a rape.
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:iconunstrunghero:
~Unstrunghero Oct 19, 2007   Interface Designer
who exactly has the time to do that?
It just sounds moronic to me...
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:iconlombax-queen:
Everything you said i agree with. I love you. Please marry me....well maybe not

Fanart: Everytime i go to the DA homepage, in the Most fav art of the day, Everything sadly is fanart, or highly popular artist who make me sick. I'm not saying Fanart is bad, i'm just sick of seeing Kingdom Hearts and Big Anime in there. I do fav Fanart, but it has to be something that gets my eye. It can't be just A character i love, it has to be detailed, colored, and everyone element of art for me to fav. But i'm kinda getting bored with Fanart being on the page everyday. I don't draw fanart like i used to, but when i do, i do it for my enjoyment, not to get favs.
Another thing, i've seen that my old Ratchet and Clank fanart(which i hate so much now, being my style was crap and babyish back then). And lately, people are Faving them. I'm kinda getting pissed, and they leave comments on them which i rather them not.

say nothing when faving everything: I never got anyone who would Fav my artwork in at least 2 min with out commenting, but i do get people who just fav everytime without commenting. I kinda get upset with that. I want to know at least why you like my art or that peice, i'm getting fed up with it.

One Word: OMG i love you so much. I hate that the most. I also hate comments which have nothing to do with the Picture. one word comments don't tell me what you like about the picture, and it annoys me. And unless the picture wasn't very well done or humorist picture, i want feedback on the picture, the not just some jokes or nothing that will tell me about the picture. I'm pretty Strict about that, i won't tell anyone that being i don't want to hurt there feelings or anything but i do wish they would.
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:iconshockproof:
:paranoid: I dunno if I should dare saying anything here because I'm afraid you might bite :P <3

But I have to, you know me. I don't like your opening to the journal. I agree with mostly everything in it, you know that as well, but the beginning seems a bit hypocritical.

You're going on a ranting spree with much negativity telling the whole of DA what you think about this in a journal free for anyone to read. In a manner, you're asking people to listen to you and to hear your opinion. Shouldn't they be able to do the same without feeling that their opinion doesn't matter to you? If they bother to comment, I mean. Not for that, I see you've taken the time to comment on most here so... it's just the beginning that annoys me. It's more or less saying "my opinion is something everyone should listen to and yours doesn't matter to me"

<_<;,

But yeah, I agree completely with the rest. I just wish to comment on the 'comment'-thing. I just realized it you see... It's a bit up to the artist as well. When some sits down to make long comments where they share their opinion and tell why they like it, I'm sure they wish something more back than either silence or a simple "thank you". You don't do that, I know, I' not referring to you. I'm just thinking in general, because I just thought of it because of something ~nylvatheel said :]

Now I somehow feel I should go through my favs and remove stuff .__. I know something there isn't right....

And you made me want to comment more! Imagine...
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:icondazedpink:
~DazedPink Oct 19, 2007  Student Traditional Artist
I bite, hard. You know I do.
I don't say people have to read my journal. It's up here, and it's a free choice to read it. If they disagree with the content of my journal, then I have my damn right to disagree with them as well, if I do of course. I don't disagree just to disagree. I am willing to listen to others, but it doesn't mean I have to agree. There's a difference between listening, and agreeing.
Besides, I know the starter sounds harsh, but I am pissed of. It's my right as a coffee addicted madgirl! If people have the right to act as freaking brats, as some do on DA, not all of course, then I have my right to be pissed of.

I do see your point though, and I respect that! <3

But people shouldnt leave long comments, just in wish to receive something back? I do see your point, but it seems a bit contradicting. And it doesnt have to be a long comment, just two, three sentences are enough. Those people who really bother to write fine long comments for me are my friends, because they know it means something to me. I think it's easy; leave a proper comment, or leave nothing at all.

You must always disagree with me! Thou must die, and I shall hug you to death in my b00bs! :heart:
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:iconshockproof:
Rawr!
I know.
Well duh, I know that. It was just how the beginning could be interpreted that worried me a bit. I don't want to see loads of shit fall over your shoulders when I know you didn't mean it that way. Oh, my skills of imagery is just amazing right now :doh:
*retard* Of course you don't disagree to disagree, that's my job. We both know that.


Of course not, I'm not saying that they should recieve long comments back, by all means. That's just tiring in the end to respond to all the time xD evil circle that. But it would be nice t know if the comment was listened to, and if there was some sort of good information in that. A person giving critic wants to know how they can improve their manner of critiquing as much as a real artist would like to know what they could improve. Or at the least in theory, that's how it should be. I know it doesn't always work that way -__-

Mmmmh.... marit boobs... not the worst death. xP <33
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:iconrudelullaby:
Half-assed fanart is the #1 of things I hate in dA. Also, I don't get comments pretty much ever, so it's obvious that one word comments and commentless +favs irritate me as well.

No wonder I don't have the motivation to improve and put myself out there, when people don't bother to use full sentences in their comments :(
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